The King and I. Roger and Me. Why the grammatical discrepancy?

Question

The King and I. Roger and Me. Why the grammatical discrepancy?

Answer 1

It depends on where it fits in the sentence. If used as a subject, the correct one is "The King and I." As in "The King and I were dancing."



As a subject, "Roger and Me," as in "He asked Roger and me." When in doubt, mentally remove the proper noun and see if it sounds alright: I was dancing; He asked me.

Answer 2

calethyia is right. It depends on what grammatical role the phrase is playing in the sentenfce. The following sentences all follow grammar rules:



Roger and I went to the store yesterday.

The king and I met at a fancy ball.

Your mother seems to like Roger and me.

Big hats look good on the king and me.



In the first two sentences, the phrases in question are all subjects, and "I" is the pronoun that grammarians tell you to use in subjects. In the second two sentences, "me" is the correct choice because grammarians tell you to use "me" in object phrases.



HOWEVER:

In phrases like this, people have been using either pronoun for hundreds of years. In fact, that was the reason that grammarians felt the need to create the rule. So just because the rules tell you to do something doesn't mean that you'll be speaking improper English if you don't do it. In fact, I suspect that most people you know use both of these all the time without knowing it.



The strategy they suggested of removing the first thing from the phrase is a good one, since the same variation doesn't seem to exist when just one pronoun is being used.

Answer 3

Actually, it all depends on where the verb is that follows the pronouns. If you said "Roger and me went to the store" that would be incorrect. On the other hand, if you said "Marie drove Roger and me to the store" that would be correct. To check yourself, you might just drop the noun "Roger" and the conjuction "and" and then you would have a sentence that reads: "Marie drove me to the store" (correct). I find that using the pronoun "I" is much easier... and usually correct; for example, "The King and I are great friends" (correct). Also, "The King and I play soccer" (also correct). The discrepancy lies in what the reader of the noun and pronoun thinks after reading the short phrases "The King and I" and "Roger and Me". It is not just to deem one as correct and one as incorrect when the context of the statement is not clearly understood. I hope this helps. Cheers!

Answer 4

The King And Me

Answer 5

Marky, Freshy, El Gato, Or Kostascdsc

Answer 6

It depends upon use in a sentence. For example, you would say, "The King and I are going for tea." Take out the "King" and you will know whether to use "I" or "me". You wouldn't say, "Me [is] going for tea" but you would say "I" [am] going for tea.



On the other hand, you would say, "The powerball jackpot of $147 million was won by Roger and me." Take out "Roger" and you will know whether to use "I" or "me." You wouldn't say, "The money was won by I" but you would say, "The money was won by me."

Answer 7

"Roger and Me" is INCORRECT. But would you expect anything else from Michael Moore?